How Much if Any Backend Data Does Voip.ms Sell?

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I am trying to create a Facebook account at the moment.

A bit of background: I previously had a Facebook account, was banned for no reason, and then complained and got my account back.

After I got my account back, I was very frustrated with the experience of having to beg to get my account back and ultimately deleted it.

I am now trying to create a new account. I hopefully am not banned. I eventually plan on creating social media accounts on other networks that don’t arbitrarily ban their users. I am also a political liberal/moderate, I’ve never used Facebook for anything inappropriate, and I didn’t say anything inappropriate.

I would like to use my voip.ms phone for verification purposes. I also almost always use a VPN because I’ve been the victim of identity theft before and prefer to protect some data at all times.

I don’t know if Voip.ms sells backend data on their end to “trusted partners” or things like that. I know once I provide a number to Facebook, they will sell it to literally anyone they can.

I have thought about using a number specifically for Facebook, but if I am creating a new number and voip.ms sells that data to brokers, Facebook will already know about any other numbers from data brokers.

I also don’t trust “trusted partners” and figure whenever a company sells any data to anyone, someone corrupt will sell it eventually.

Another issue is that voip.ms is linked to my bank account and linked to me, so if Facebook decides to ban me immediately for some reason (like based on VPN usage), I don’t want Facebook to buy data from voip.ms and or “trusted partners” (large databrokers) and then permanently ban me.

I also don’t know if these numbers, when provisioned, are somehow linked at another company to me. In other words, I don’t know if voip.ms subcontracts would with a large company who provides numbers and every time a new number is added voip.ms makes a request “We need a new number for First Last Social Security # 123-45-6789 DOB 1/2/3” and then that company can sell that data on the backend, which Facebook will absolutely buy. Any data Facebook can buy to correlate user activity they do.

I like voip.ms a lot and it’s the best experience I’ve had with voip ever, so even if voip.ms I would still use it, I just wouldn’t use a voip.ms number to create an account.

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I share your concerns, and do use a dedicated voip.ms number for facebook. I also frequently access it from a vpn and had not had any account access issues.

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Hello sipper,

We understand your concerns regarding this matter. Please be assured that we take customer privacy very seriously. For any inquiries, we kindly refer you to our Terms of Service. Below is an excerpt related to this topic:

VoIP.ms agrees to not sell your personal or corporate information to third parties except as permitted by the present Terms and in order to provide, support and secure the Services. The Customer agrees and understand that the Company may use the services of a third party to render the Services or part of the Services and that Customer data may be hosted by the Company or their authorized third party service providers.

I would like to formally inform you that since the date we are in business, we have not encountered this type of issue.

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There was a typo in my first post. It should have said “I would still use voip.ms even if it did sell backend data.” This is true. I didn’t expect voip.ms to be that good of a company when I signed up, but you’re actually really good. You do what you do so well, and it’s so affordable. It’s really unbelievable to me how good of an experience it’s been overall.

But I’m glad you don’t sell any of it. (There are so many bad companies out there.) Your company just makes everything so easy and has so many menu options that are cool. I’m still learning more and more about the service as I use it. The price is ridiculously low relative to how many features there are.

I know you have said you have never encountered this issue before. Many people don’t think about these sorts of things because when people get banned on a service based on backend data, or declined for a job interview based on aggregate data, or are declined for an account based on those sorts of things, the people doing the declining often don’t go “The personality profile said you’re lazy and like lots of alcohol and we found that out from a data broker who compiled that from your constant beer shopping at Walmart, information about ongoing late fees that they also bought, and a personality test you took 5 years ago online for fun. The data broker pooled this information and concluded you are lazy.”

Instead, they go “As part of our ongoing efforts at security, we have certain reasons why we have declined you that we can’t discuss as part of our commitment to security and safety and wish you the best.”

Well, based on this I may try to get another VOIP number just to hopefully use Facebook, since other companies do sell data and I’m afraid of them blocking me immediately based on my VPN. I really dislike Facebook, but am going to try to use it again.

Thank you for your answer!

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